tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17766817.post7713478167224103226..comments2023-11-05T22:35:31.766+00:00Comments on Neil Clark: Stranger than Fiction: A Wikipedia conspiracyNeil Clarkhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10479041156190090119noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17766817.post-49833765327652333622012-08-03T14:03:07.090+01:002012-08-03T14:03:07.090+01:00And it has moved again, to this URL:
http://www.g...And it has moved again, to this URL:<br /><br />http://www.geocities.ws/berletwatch/virgin.htmAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17766817.post-1990590321079841692010-06-27T18:38:33.096+01:002010-06-27T18:38:33.096+01:00Your link to "Chip Berlet, SlimVirgin, and Wi...Your link to "Chip Berlet, SlimVirgin, and Wikipedia" is broken because the page has moved here: <br />http://berletwatch.freehostia.com/virgin.htmAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17766817.post-67502513316874617472008-05-14T02:03:00.000+01:002008-05-14T02:03:00.000+01:00Your article is generally spot on, except that the...Your article is generally spot on, except that the alleged post by SlimVirgin, where she is recruiting allies to her animal rights agenda, is a forgery.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17766817.post-63587551255158850192008-01-25T17:04:00.000+00:002008-01-25T17:04:00.000+00:00oh, don't worry anonymous. 'Philip Cross' will be ...oh, don't worry anonymous. 'Philip Cross' will be outed.Neil Clarkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10479041156190090119noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17766817.post-72477786585619139022008-01-25T16:27:00.000+00:002008-01-25T16:27:00.000+00:00A post on "Philip Cross" promised, but not deliver...A post on "Philip Cross" promised, but not delivered six weeks later. Do you or your curious supporter "Citylightsgirl" still think he is "Elena Zam?"<BR/><BR/>2008-01-25Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17766817.post-17510221222119020972007-12-30T00:29:00.000+00:002007-12-30T00:29:00.000+00:00I'm pretty sure you're wrong about the team editin...I'm pretty sure you're wrong about the team editing thing, she's just likely underemployed and high on something or other, and very devoted to her "cause"...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17766817.post-91742946180288090282007-12-17T20:35:00.000+00:002007-12-17T20:35:00.000+00:00Very interesting, Neil and quite amazing. It's cle...Very interesting, Neil and quite amazing. It's clear 'slim virgin' has an agenda and elena zamm most certainly does too. For me the most interesting observation was:<BR/><BR/>“The same SlimVirgin also holds a record of continuous editorial work lasting 26 hours, with the longest break in editing not exceeding 40 minutes. These statistics from Wikipedia's editing records suggests either a supernatural ability, or more likely that SlimVirgin is a convenient smoke screen for an entire team of specialists editing Wikipedia articles on behalf of intelligence services.“<BR/>on this url: http://www.wikipedia-watch.org/russmag.html<BR/><BR/>No one edits wikipedia for 26 hours on end, not even the most crazed obsessive. This is clearly a team effort.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17766817.post-12679975796703004522007-12-17T19:17:00.000+00:002007-12-17T19:17:00.000+00:00So the zionazi gate keepers at "Ziopedia" are afte...So the zionazi gate keepers at "Ziopedia" are after your arse too.<BR/><BR/>Not so strange at all...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17766817.post-63898813719385903792007-12-17T15:38:00.000+00:002007-12-17T15:38:00.000+00:00roland: it certainly is a dangerous topic- for 'sl...roland: it certainly is a dangerous topic- for 'slim virign' and 'elena zam'.<BR/>The allegations you speak of come from a highly predictable source. <BR/><BR/>phil c: there are some very vindictive skins out there too.<BR/><BR/>luke: the 'you're just as bad as each other' line doesn't really apply here. If someone wrote a critical review of a book I had written, I wouldn't respond in the vindictive way Kamm did. He has spent the best part of two years attacking me on his one man smear sheet (I won't call it a blog), and in other forums too.<BR/>re-read the post: I did not say that Kamm knew 'slim virgin's real identity, only that he contacted her. I've heard of euphemisms, but to call what has been going on as 'shenanigans' is quite ridiculous.Neil Clarkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10479041156190090119noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17766817.post-19578478566518690362007-12-17T15:28:00.000+00:002007-12-17T15:28:00.000+00:00Dear Neil,This is rather a dangerous topic, don't ...Dear Neil,<BR/><BR/>This is rather a dangerous topic, don't you think? Considering that similar allegations (which I shall not repeat) have been made towards you regarding Wikipedia tinkering.<BR/><BR/>Bearing that in mind, Wikipedia generally does a decent job of balancing itself out. It's only when online opinionists with far too much time on their hands get involved that things get messy.<BR/><BR/>And what kind of user name is 'Slim Virgin' anyway? <BR/><BR/>(comment edited by moderator)<BR/>Roland Hulme<BR/>http://rolandhulme.blogspot.com/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17766817.post-80819357334521813582007-12-17T12:27:00.000+00:002007-12-17T12:27:00.000+00:00This is bizarre. Why do so many bloggers *really* ...This is bizarre. Why do so many bloggers *really* take umbrage at what others write? There's some very, very thin skins out there.Philhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06298147857234479278noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17766817.post-56510071509523413712007-12-17T08:25:00.000+00:002007-12-17T08:25:00.000+00:001. I'm a reader, with no conection to you or Kamm ...1. I'm a reader, with no conection to you or Kamm and made up my mind.<BR/><BR/>2. Yes, the slimvirgin thing is odd, but how was Kamm meant to know exactly what was going on? And why would you assume I hadn't read the links?<BR/><BR/>3. Kamm has linked to his exchanges with slimvirgin, on many an occaison.<BR/><BR/>Listen, I'm not in any way trying to say that this entire affair hasn't been in some way unpleasant or that there hasn't in some fashion been shenanigans occuring. Just pointing out some flaws in your reasoning. I don't think either you or Kamm come out particularly well from it all.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17766817.post-37117825330287723382007-12-17T08:19:00.000+00:002007-12-17T08:19:00.000+00:00Nice try Luke, but I think readers, after reading ...Nice try Luke, but I think readers, after reading through all the material, will be able to make their own minds up on whether there has been a conspiracy or not. <BR/>I have revised copy to make it clear that Kamm was editing his talk page. They may be public postings: but ones which Kamm, given his penchant for writing about wikipedia, has seemed remarkably reluctant to talk about. <BR/>to equate the actions of martin meenagh, who only wrote in to argue (under his own name) that my pager should not be deleted, with Linda Mack aka 'slim virgin', a malicious editor, who has sabotaged not just mine, but thousands of other wikipedia pages for political reasons is absurd. I take it you haven't read all the articles about Linda Mack.<BR/>Mack, if the information is to be believed, and the evidence does seem to be very strong, has links to the British security forces. It also seems that the name 'slim virgin' hid a group operation- how else do we explain the fact that she was often on line editing entries for 36 hours on one go? and editing thousands and thousands of entries in such a short period of time. This, as others have argued points to the fact that the name 'slim virgin' was used as a cover for an intelligence operation.<BR/>This is a story that will not be 'buried', I assure you.Neil Clarkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10479041156190090119noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17766817.post-42997271217277746872007-12-17T00:19:00.000+00:002007-12-17T00:19:00.000+00:00Thirdly: is it not a bit rich for you to complain ...Thirdly: is it not a bit rich for you to complain that 'slimvirgin' did not reveal her biases? In all of those exchanges, Martin Meenagh never revealed his relationship to you, did he?<BR/><BR/>Sorry, Neil. But I can't see the grand conspiracy here. I'm far from a fan of Kamm's, but I can't see how posting something under your own name on a publicly viewable site like wikipedia can be at all characterised as duplicitous.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17766817.post-70322745140847515562007-12-17T00:16:00.000+00:002007-12-17T00:16:00.000+00:00Also: all those pages displaying communication bet...Also: all those pages displaying communication between ElenaZamm, slimvirgin and OliverKamm are in the public and Kamm has attatched his own name to many of them. They don't really class as 'finds' per se - they're public postings under the man's own name.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17766817.post-81884540183341544562007-12-17T00:09:00.000+00:002007-12-17T00:09:00.000+00:00A point of clarification. That link does not discl...A point of clarification. That link does not disclose Kamm editing his own wikipedia page at all. It shows him editing the talk:oliver kamm page. That page which is for discussion of a wikipedia entry. I doubt Kamm would deny he 'edited' this - he's linked to that page himself, many times.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com