tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17766817.post6397611368118151347..comments2023-11-05T22:35:31.766+00:00Comments on Neil Clark: Who deserves to rot in Hell, Timothy?Neil Clarkhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10479041156190090119noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17766817.post-23193751441492567632012-01-25T01:21:54.895+00:002012-01-25T01:21:54.895+00:00Even if it's a fact that Milosevic didn't ...Even if it's a fact that Milosevic didn't order genocide,war crimes etc to take place it's a possible fact that he did nothing when the Serb army even some Serbian police officials committed genocide,war crimes etc so therefore he was still culpable and his punishment can therefore be warranted.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17766817.post-60195770169557927392009-11-05T03:04:31.923+00:002009-11-05T03:04:31.923+00:00If the late Slobodan Milosevic rots in hell,it wou...If the late Slobodan Milosevic rots in hell,it would occur for a reason. In fact I heard that he is an atheist and atheism can be cosidered a cardinal sin or something.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17766817.post-69478005013030892562007-12-10T17:39:00.000+00:002007-12-10T17:39:00.000+00:00I saw the article & put up a post saying that sinc...I saw the article & put up a post saying that since there was no actual evidence ever produced against Milosevic in 4 1/2 years of "trial" that was an unworthy remark. I then said perhaps Mr Garton Ash was the one who should burn in Hell. <BR/><BR/>The Guardian decided to censor my comment which shows a certain double standard.<BR/> <BR/>9percentgrowthneil craighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09157898238945726349noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17766817.post-29988854902247348582007-12-07T15:41:00.000+00:002007-12-07T15:41:00.000+00:00Jacques Poos hurried to inform the Slovenes, then ...<I>Jacques Poos hurried to inform the Slovenes, then trying to break away from Slobodan Milosevic's Yugoslavia, that small countries had no future in Europe".</I><BR/><BR/>Quite apart from that egregious error that you highlight, I love the fact of the Prime Minister of LUXEMBOURG making such a statement. Truly a man promoted well above his ability. Such was his "hour of Europe", moreover.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17766817.post-40897225688361404952007-12-07T10:43:00.000+00:002007-12-07T10:43:00.000+00:00Just to clarify this point about Kamm burning in h...Just to clarify this point about Kamm burning in hellfire, I'd like to point out that this is not JUST mindless abuse!<BR/><BR/>Anybody who has seen the sick blend of neocon bigotry, obscene pro-war apology, grubby personal attacks and pseudo-intellectual bullshit which Kamm flushes down his blog will understand that he is heading for Hell.<BR/><BR/>I'm still not sure whether Neil is on the right track to go after him in the Law Courts. The way I see it, Kamm (and his ape-faced sidekick, Pollard) are a bit like the contents of a sewer. Normal healthy people wouldn't choose to spash around in a putrid brew of scum, vomit, slime, used condoms (and worse). And likewise, filth like Kamm and Pollard are best left ignored - out of sight and out of mind.<BR/><BR/>By stirring them up, you just make yourself dirty!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17766817.post-81177541942468202842007-12-07T10:41:00.000+00:002007-12-07T10:41:00.000+00:00phildav: how very interesting!elena zamm's numerou...phildav: how very interesting!<BR/>elena zamm's numerous edits to my page don't appear on her page any more after my page was deleted.<BR/>re Kamm's wikipedia activities the link below is very interesting too! Not only does it show Kamm editing his own biography, but it also shows him in contact with 'Philip cross' and 'slim virign',. 'Slim Vrigin' is the editor who deleted my page.<BR/>The other interesting thing is the interest those who vandalised my page have with vandalising the page of David Cromwell of Media Lens too. We both got maliciously edited on the evening of 25th December!! What sort of person would psend Christmas night in front of a computer maliciuosly editing wikipedia entries? Only an obsessive person with a vendetta against me and David.<BR/><BR/>http://wikipediareview.com/index.php?showtopic=11810<BR/><BR/>"Kamm has edited his own biography before.<BR/><BR/>Curiously, Kamm, an awful British neo-conservative gobshite and one man smear machine, made his last edit to the talk page of Philip Cross and it stated:<BR/><BR/>QUOTE <BR/>I'd like to draw your attention to a note I've just put on the user page of [[User:SlimVirgin|SlimVirgin]], as it refers to you too. Thanks.[[User:OliverKamm|OliverKamm]] 13:01, 5 July 2007 (UTC<BR/><BR/>But I can't find the note to SV as it has been predictably removed. Reading between the lines it seems to involve a now deleted article on Kamm's nemesis, writer Neil Clark. SV dismisses Clark here saying "it would be a stretch to call him a journalist". Presumably her involvement is politically motivated yet again, as Clark is "strongly opposed to the neo-conservative war agenda".Neil Clarkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10479041156190090119noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17766817.post-41738337964158555632007-12-07T09:45:00.000+00:002007-12-07T09:45:00.000+00:00It is interesting to note than ElenaZam didn't edi...It is interesting to note than ElenaZam didn't edit anything at all on wikipedia from 8 June until 28 November after Neil had mentioned her on 22 November. Some more edits have occurred yesterday.<BR/><BR/>http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&limit=500&target=ElenaZam<BR/><BR/>This was the nearest I could find for a real person called ElenaZam<BR/><BR/>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elena_ZamolodchikovaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17766817.post-29875150471977656442007-12-07T09:06:00.001+00:002007-12-07T09:06:00.001+00:00conrad poohs: no, the principles applies to him to...conrad poohs: no, the principles applies to him to. Even if we leave out the activities of 'Mr George Courtenay', the mysterious non-existent person whose only internet activity was to defend Kamm on the website 'Ministry of Truth' and then to email a nasty poison letter about me to one of my commissioning editors, linking to Kamm's smears and ccing the email to Kamm; even if we leave out the activities of 'Elena Zamm', who spent night after night trashing my wikiepdia page, (Zamm only edited two other wiki pages, Kamm's and Kamm's mother, editing those rather more charitably than my page!!), and even if we leave out the other annoymous/pseudonymous individuals who link to Kamm's defamatory comments about me on websites whenever my work appears; Kamm has, in his own name spent two years, defaming and smearing me not just on his own website but on lots of other websites too (and has also wrote a letter of complaint to the Readers' Editor of the Guardian about me; a complaint, I should add that was rejected). Have a look in your dictionary at the word harassment- it is defined in mine as "vex by repeated attacks". Kamm's attacks have been repeated, almost daily- and they clearly constitute harassment.<BR/><BR/>ps<BR/>If you don't know about George Courtenay and Elena Zamm then put the names in the search engine of this blog.Neil Clarkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10479041156190090119noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17766817.post-29526559302823712472007-12-07T09:06:00.000+00:002007-12-07T09:06:00.000+00:00first anonymous: while I'll lay odds of 1-20 that ...<I>first anonymous: while I'll lay odds of 1-20 that Holbrooke won't see Slobo in hell, I'll lay odds of 1-200 that Kamm will end up there.</I><BR/><BR/>Interesting odds, Neil. Tell me, how would we ever know who's won the bet?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17766817.post-84929377041157057222007-12-07T08:43:00.000+00:002007-12-07T08:43:00.000+00:00first anonymous: while I'll lay odds of 1-20 that ...first anonymous: while I'll lay odds of 1-20 that Holbrooke won't see Slobo in hell, I'll lay odds of 1-200 that Kamm will end up there. Not merely because of the incredibly malicious way he tried to destroy the career of a journalist for committing the 'crime' of critically reviewing a book he had written, but for the way he has propagandised, in the most deceitful way, for illegal wars of aggression.<BR/><BR/>second anonymous: totally agreed.Neil Clarkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10479041156190090119noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17766817.post-5312084142643837352007-12-07T02:03:00.000+00:002007-12-07T02:03:00.000+00:00Kamm is feeling the pressure definitely. In his l...Kamm is feeling the pressure definitely. In his latest post he pooh-pooh-ed Ed Herman and David Petersen's observation that Milosevic never made a single speech calling for the annhilation of any ethnic group by referring to a radio interview with Ed Vulliamy in which the latter talks about Serbian atrocities in Bosnia.<BR/><BR/>The only problem is that Vulliamy had nothing to say about Milosevic. But that is how Kamm argues. Serbs committed atrocities therefore Milosevic is guilty of genocide. How naive to believe that one needs concrete evidence like speeches and written orders when the perfect substitute of militant liberal outrage is readily available.<BR/><BR/>TGA is another fool. He of course wants us to think that he gives a damn about the Serbs. If he did then he would be arguing for the same right of secession for the Bosnian Serbs. But no. TGA merely weeps a tear for the wonderful Serbo-Byzantine churches and then it's off to the Republic of Kosova independence jamboree hosted by the KLA gangster Thaci.<BR/><BR/>But the stakes are different this time because Putin is behind the Serbs, not the drunkard Yelstin. The outcome could be a shock for the West.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17766817.post-84102757814157713612007-12-06T21:23:00.000+00:002007-12-06T21:23:00.000+00:00Let's not leave Oliver 'the web-bigot' Kamm's name...Let's not leave Oliver 'the web-bigot' Kamm's name off of the list for a (likely) one way ticket to hell.<BR/><BR/>Okay, so that little pile of poop is small fry compared to the scum you mentioned. However - by his own admission - he is an atheist. <BR/><BR/>So in a way it's official: Kamm IS on his way to Hell...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17766817.post-16262173104258230132007-12-06T21:17:00.000+00:002007-12-06T21:17:00.000+00:00Speaking as a Serbian Canadian, I could barely rea...Speaking as a Serbian Canadian, I could barely read that crap from this zionist liberal hack. So I gather they are trying for a quick solution to their problem of their own making that only satisfies them, sort of like any solution in Iraq that guarantees imperial occupation of segregated areas . Divide and concquer is an old trick, surely older than this hack but it has many ways of working and it sure can blow in one's face if they push it hard enough , not to mention act arrogantly , lie teneciously and the rest of it. Overall that text is based not on facts, reason but typically neoliberal/neocon appeal to emotion, quick solutions, whitewashed fairy tales. Thanks again Neil, for exposing this for all to seeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17766817.post-80205526320401201232007-12-06T20:34:00.000+00:002007-12-06T20:34:00.000+00:00There was no Kosovo crisis in 1996 until the US ca...There was no Kosovo crisis in 1996 until the US came along and started stirring things up. Yet the propaganda against Milosevic has been so unrelenting that most people hold him responsible.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17766817.post-2626217882985798872007-12-06T20:24:00.000+00:002007-12-06T20:24:00.000+00:00unlike you I hold to that quaint old-fashioned not...<I>unlike you I hold to that quaint old-fashioned notion that a man is innocent until proven guilty</I><BR/><BR/>Unless his name's Oliver Kamm, eh Neil?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com