tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17766817.post2173526583917088057..comments2023-11-05T22:35:31.766+00:00Comments on Neil Clark: "A Crime that cannot succeed"Neil Clarkhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10479041156190090119noreply@blogger.comBlogger37125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17766817.post-77881509391892351222009-01-07T12:58:00.000+00:002009-01-07T12:58:00.000+00:00And for the umpteenth time Dan - where is your evi...And for the umpteenth time Dan - where is your evidence that Israel's military capacity is so much lowwer than that of the Croatian Nazi militia that it would have been impossible for them to match the genocide & ethnic cleansing they managed in Krajina (or that NATO "polixe" managed in Kosovo?<BR/><BR/>And where is your disapproval of those people who engage in genocide against peoples your mentor Mr Schikelgruber was so intent on murdering?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17766817.post-49787421556497160632009-01-06T14:44:00.000+00:002009-01-06T14:44:00.000+00:00Craig;For the third time, no evidence you are a re...Craig;<BR/>For the third time, no evidence you are a real human, <BR/>your parking proved my theory about your being a dog.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17766817.post-47670311546703560902009-01-06T13:20:00.000+00:002009-01-06T13:20:00.000+00:00Darely worth replying to a mous who won't stan...Darely worth replying to a mous who won't stand behind their rudeness but "I deeply resent the cheap smear that anyone who dares to say negative things about Israel (and/or the Jewish political lobby) is a neo-nazi/holocaust revisionist/racist/blah-blah-blah" is, of course, a poece of straw man slander.<BR/><BR/>I never said any such thing.<BR/><BR/>I said that those who attack Israel defending themselves by bombing which inevitiably hits some civilians but did not, far more strongly condemn our own leaders for deliberate, mass, civilian bombing not for defencive reasons but to bring about racial genocide, child sex slavery & the deliberate dissection of living human beings are Nazis, racists & etc. <BR/><BR/>That that description clearly includes Livingston, Short, the entire BBC, ITN & most of our media as well, on a lesser level, as Dan & his mous, does not affect the obvious factual accuracy of it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17766817.post-12968465577524915292009-01-05T19:00:00.000+00:002009-01-05T19:00:00.000+00:00Anonymous 6:24 PM:Good argument. you should throw ...Anonymous 6:24 PM:<BR/>Good argument. <BR/>you should throw a bone with your comment since it's for Craig.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17766817.post-13573397315819903552009-01-05T18:36:00.000+00:002009-01-05T18:36:00.000+00:00craig;Could you prove to me first that I'm replyin...craig;<BR/>Could you prove to me first that I'm replying to a human being not a dog? you didn't convince me so far that you are properly developed human being.<BR/><BR/>Did you leave your computer open and the dog took charge of your computer?<BR/><BR/> If not, please bring the dog to write,, he must be more rational than yourself.<BR/><BR/>All my comments have my name on it, if you lie I don't. Neil knew anon comments didn't come from my ip address.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17766817.post-90212078250412878142009-01-05T18:24:00.000+00:002009-01-05T18:24:00.000+00:00For the record: I am not "Dan".And I am certainly ...For the record: I am not "Dan".<BR/><BR/>And I am certainly not retracting anything that I have said.<BR/><BR/>I deeply resent the cheap smear that anyone who dares to say negative things about Israel (and/or the Jewish political lobby) is a neo-nazi/holocaust revisionist/racist/blah-blah-blah.<BR/><BR/>If you would just get your head out of your ass for one second, you would see that it is Israel which is behaving like a brutal Nazi-state right now!<BR/><BR/>You might not like it - but unfortunately it is there for all of us to see, and no amout of Zionist chicanery and propaganda can hide the facts.<BR/><BR/>Poor defenceless people are being butchered by the hundred - and if you are defending the vile scum who are doing the killing, then you are just as bad yourself.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17766817.post-86644448645800880602009-01-05T15:55:00.000+00:002009-01-05T15:55:00.000+00:00Well Dan how grateful we should all be to hear tha...Well Dan how grateful we should all be to hear that you aren't denying the Holocaust. Gosh.<BR/><BR/>Now perhaps you would like to retract your claim;<BR/><BR/>"So now that gives the modern Israelis a right to do the same to the the Arabs, right??"<BR/><BR/>Something which you know perfectly well nobody here claimed.<BR/><BR/>And while you are doing it may I again point out that it is impossible for anybody not themselves a supporter of Nazism not to dissociate themselves from those, like your allies Short & Livingston, who have personally supported the bombing of civilians in the cause of helping Nazi genocide, child sex slavery & dissecting people. If you were in any way honestly concerned about human suffering you would have already done so.<BR/><BR/>On the other hand since you are maintaining the obvious lie that the Israelis do not possess a shred of the military capability of your Croatian Nazi allies & are thus prevented from replicating any trace of their action in Krajina, by inability rather than by the Israelis being thousands of times more civilised than your friends, it is clear that honesty is not a consideration.neil craighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09157898238945726349noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17766817.post-25037831013097524462009-01-05T13:37:00.000+00:002009-01-05T13:37:00.000+00:00Neil Craig said:"The claim that Israel is 'trying ...Neil Craig said:<BR/><BR/>"The claim that Israel is 'trying to kill as many Palestinians as possible' is so over the top and wholly contrary to the observable truth that it could never be said by anybody motivated by a respect for truth, integrity or human decency. There is nothing, short of walking into gas chambers, which could ever placate such people."<BR/><BR/>Aha! The HOLOCAUST card!<BR/><BR/>I was wondering just how long it would be before we'd be hearing that one from the Zionist side!<BR/><BR/>Mustn't dare to criticise Israel, must we? Oh no, these people can do just what the hell they like - and anyone who doesn't like it is..(dramatic burst of Wagnerian music)..an ANTI-SEMITE.<BR/><BR/>Pathetic!<BR/><BR/>The European Jews suffred dreadfully in the past - nobody here is denying that.<BR/><BR/>So now that gives the modern Israelis a right to do the same to the the Arabs, right??<BR/><BR/>Er, sorry, but NO it doesn't.<BR/><BR/>Go figure.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17766817.post-62710189132952986812009-01-04T20:11:00.000+00:002009-01-04T20:11:00.000+00:00Neil. I meant Neil craig and Robin in my last repl...Neil. <BR/>I meant Neil craig and Robin in my last reply, sorry if I didn't clarified this.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17766817.post-5157771944624540322009-01-04T17:24:00.000+00:002009-01-04T17:24:00.000+00:00Robin;I know Israeli occupation has planned this a...Robin;<BR/>I know Israeli occupation has planned this attack more than six months ago, before Obama come to the picture. <BR/>Despite all the reports and analysis, we need time, alot of time to learn what is really going on. wait and see what will happen in the next six months... this is what they are planning for now. <BR/><BR/>Craig; do what you want. and belive what you wish. you obviously live on a different planet.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17766817.post-13862766207349577342009-01-04T15:20:00.000+00:002009-01-04T15:20:00.000+00:00Dan - I see. I may not be as dogmatic on this mat...Dan - I see. I may not be as dogmatic on this matter as you, but I also consider Israel's actions to be disproportionate.<BR/><BR/>Do you suspect, as I do, that they're doing it *now* because some of the more hawkish Israelis are worried (justifiably or otherwise) about Obama?Robin Carmodyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05825645880870474801noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17766817.post-47972385178004890922009-01-04T15:16:00.000+00:002009-01-04T15:16:00.000+00:00Our Croatian Nazi allies, with NATO's help, we...Our Croatian Nazi allies, with NATO's help, were able to exterminate or "cleanse" over half a million people from Krajina. At the time & even now Croatia's military capacity was very much smaller than Israel's. Israel could certainly have done the same decades ago had that been their intent.<BR/><BR/>It is perfectly legitimatye to criticise Israel if the critic has at least come close to similarly criticisng those who have done far worse. <BR/><BR/>However the claim that Israel are "trying to kill as many Palestinains as possible" is so over the top & wholly contrary to the observable truth that it could never be said by anybody motivated by a respect for truth, integrity or human decency. There is nothing, short of walking into gas chambers, which could ever placate such people & Israel is unlikely to do so. Anybody on the anti-Israeli side from a conviction that they can thus serve gernuine humanitarian interests should be the very first to dissociate thermselves from such racism. <BR/><BR/>Incidentally Dan I do not intend to remove the comment you put on my blog since it accurately displays the depth of intellectual & moral vacuousness with which so many on your side approach this serious problem.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17766817.post-78921475807997157372009-01-03T21:51:00.000+00:002009-01-03T21:51:00.000+00:00By the way, Anonymous remark about the so-calledI...By the way, Anonymous remark about the so-calledI Israel desire to kill as many Palestinians as possible is correct and became old news now.<BR/>Israeli papers has reported about the planning of the offensive in length, also Amira Hass has written about it, on the 31st of Dec in Haaretz, and criticized the timing of the offensive, 11:30. which is the time school children change shifts at schools. <BR/><BR/>Again, Israeli papers has written about that in length.......... and I believe them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17766817.post-66137655084966162892009-01-03T21:34:00.000+00:002009-01-03T21:34:00.000+00:00Robin;I print without looking at the keyboard. I d...Robin;<BR/>I print without looking at the keyboard. I do mis-prints in addition to spelling mistakes.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17766817.post-16183114401179727612009-01-03T14:47:00.000+00:002009-01-03T14:47:00.000+00:00An instructive remark from anon 11.37"The Isr...An instructive remark from anon 11.37<BR/><BR/>"The Israelis, on the other hand, certainly want to kill as many people in Gaza as they possibly can - just simply because they are Palestinians."<BR/><BR/>This is simply the exact opposite of the truth & yet another race libel.<BR/><BR/>Israel is quite clearly going to considerable lengths, using smart bombs, to focus on genuine military targets whereas it is their enemies who are deliberately placing themselves among civilians, as Hezbollah also did.<BR/><BR/>Compare & contrast the casualty ratio here with NATO's where 80% of the Yugoslavs they killed in their war were civilians.<BR/><BR/>If Israel were not thousands of times more civilised than the pro-Nazis running America, Britain & other NATO states she would have ethnicly cleansed Gaza & the west bank years ago as we did Krajina, half of Bosnia & Kosovo to help our openly genocidal (ex-)Nazi friends.<BR/><BR/>I have no doubt that the same media that so heavily reported the faked marketplace attacks in Sarajevo & the equally faked Srebrenica massacre (while ignoring the genuine massacre of Serbs there & the 8 years of rocket attacks on Israeli civilians & censored any mention that the Americans had put them up to it) will also regale us with new Nazi-serving propaganda stories.<BR/><BR/>The basic starting point in any discussion of this war is to acknowledge that Israel is, under intense provocation, behaving with thousands of times more respect for civilisation than any member of our major parties. They are at least complicit in Nazi genocide & worse. <BR/><BR/>Anyone not acknowledging this is clearly failing to maintain a balanced position between Jews & Nazis. I can well understand why Anon wishes not to identify himself.neil craighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09157898238945726349noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17766817.post-81563080088794873152009-01-02T22:09:00.000+00:002009-01-02T22:09:00.000+00:00OK, Dan. Personally I am not a Zionist, just some...OK, Dan. Personally I am not a Zionist, just someone who distrusts *all* extremism, which reminds me - why *did* you mis-spell "Holocaust"?Robin Carmodyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05825645880870474801noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17766817.post-8013386740670640482009-01-02T20:03:00.000+00:002009-01-02T20:03:00.000+00:00Oh... re the photo link I posted, above: I capture...Oh... re the photo link I posted, above: <BR/><BR/>I captured this screen shot about a year ago from Google Earth and saved it to photobucket. An interesting contract, huh? I think the caption I wrote at the time was insensitive but perhaps still relevant: "Which cornfield are they aiming for, again?"Tommy Schmitzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10463255009084739835noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17766817.post-56883378745968725132009-01-02T15:33:00.000+00:002009-01-02T15:33:00.000+00:00Tommy;You can't get a google satellite view of Isr...Tommy;<BR/>You can't get a google satellite view of Israeil sites. it's been removed from google along with US basis.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17766817.post-23398880619537112532009-01-02T15:31:00.000+00:002009-01-02T15:31:00.000+00:00Robin;You can compare what a real zionist has writ...Robin;<BR/>You can compare what a real zionist has written in Haaretz, with what Karl has adobted, and make your own mind.<BR/><BR/>The word ( Rightly) was used to describe a hardliners view, this was in his comment not mine.<BR/><BR/>I don't mind if he is a Zionist as long as I know. and it's ok for me if you believe he is not.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17766817.post-53698805470577256222009-01-02T13:48:00.000+00:002009-01-02T13:48:00.000+00:00Gaza and Israel? How about a high altitude view, ...Gaza and Israel? How about a high altitude view, both sides of the picture, courtesy of google earth. <BR/><BR/>http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i7/tommyschmitz/GazaandIsrael-GoogleMaps.jpgTommy Schmitzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10463255009084739835noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17766817.post-13946048975128698652008-12-31T20:25:00.000+00:002008-12-31T20:25:00.000+00:00Dan:why do you mis-spell "Holocaust"?I don't think...Dan:<BR/><BR/>why do you mis-spell "Holocaust"?<BR/><BR/>I don't think Karl is a Zionist, I think he merely tries to see both sides and condemns violence and extremism wherever it comes from. He expresses his distrust for all hardliners and comments that a less hawkish Israeli stance might weaken the Palestinian hardliners. How is that "more Zionist than Zionists themselves"?Robin Carmodyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05825645880870474801noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17766817.post-18036140822165438962008-12-31T19:13:00.001+00:002008-12-31T19:13:00.001+00:00All comparisons are invidious, but it is scurrilou...All comparisons are invidious, but it is scurrilous nonsense to compare the violence of Hamas with the violence that Israel has been perpetrating in the region since 1948. Israel is the violent occupier of land formerly occupied by another people, and it is currently attempting to expand further to make living space for more of its settlers.<BR/><BR/>The strategy of ‘settlement’, which is what the Israelis are up to, takes the whole thing a stage further than ‘occupation’ because the former is total and permanent. This is what the Palestinians face; not merely occupation but displacement and annihiliation as a land-owning people.<BR/><BR/>That’s all there is to it, really, but it is a crucial point obscured by a load of flapdoodle about biblical rights and the ‘non-existence’ of Palestine and the Palestinians. Underneath all that sophistry is yet another fascist state implementing the tranparently modernist policy of Lebensraum, forcible expansion into a territory considered necessary for the state and its people’s ‘natural development’, and once again, with tedious predictability, a region of the world - and who knows, perhaps the world itself - is on the Road to Hell.<BR/><BR/>- questionnaireAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17766817.post-34070787657199309292008-12-31T19:13:00.000+00:002008-12-31T19:13:00.000+00:00Actually of the countries you compare Israel with ...Actually of the countries you compare Israel with I strongly suspect Switzerland would indeed respond to an attack on it in very much tyhe way Israel is. The history of Switzerland is not of maintaining independence by pacifism but by being very clearly able to defend itself.<BR/><BR/>The fact is that it is Hamas which attacked Israel & they who are refusing a cease-fire. The fact that their attack could not defeat Israel & could only kill civilians does not stop them being the aggressors, it merely makes them aggressors who care nothing for their own people's lives.<BR/><BR/>As regards the comparison with Kosovo it shows not that Israel is the only country allowed to bomb enemies but that it is one of the few that isn't. Even with countries we don't approve of the comparison with our reaction to anything Israel does & the Syrian's total destruction of the city of Hama, which earned not even a mention by our media, is instructive.<BR/><BR/>British & American politicians who bombed Yugoslav hospitals for the deliberate purpose of participating in genocide, ethnic cleansing, the sexual enslavement of children & dissecting people to steal their organs now lecture the Jews on not defending themselves. Such scum, whom you have rightly opposed elsewhere Neil, are not only Nazis but hypocrites.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17766817.post-12168104181208947762008-12-31T18:25:00.000+00:002008-12-31T18:25:00.000+00:00@KNaylor;I have to aplogize for myself, because I ...@KNaylor;<BR/>I have to aplogize for myself, because I thought once your comments worth reading.<BR/><BR/>Do you realize you are a zionist more than zionists themselves? <BR/><BR/>You are disgusting. read this and try to realize how small you are<BR/><BR/>http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1051317.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17766817.post-18454629601168454052008-12-31T17:14:00.000+00:002008-12-31T17:14:00.000+00:00Jock, why do you find Karl "dependably slimy"? I ...Jock, why do you find Karl "dependably slimy"? I find his posts very well-thought-out and balanced - unlike a lot of other commenters here, he isn't fanatically slanted to any particular extreme. He can see both sides. Is that such a crime?Robin Carmodyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05825645880870474801noreply@blogger.com